The Government is Secular; not the Nation

The Government is Secular; not the Nation

The Founding Fathers had a vision of a secular Government, not a secular nation or culture.  Their vision of a secular government was just that, a Federal Government that was not controlled by any religious institution or organization.  Their goal was not to keep religious convictions and dialogue out of the public square.  They never inferred that religious convictions on morality should not inform the public or the government.

The kind of secular system proclaimed by some secularists today would involve a violation of the First Amendment which is the freedom of religion and the freedom of speech. Free men have the right to speak their mind on any subject in the public square or in private, this includes the religious and nonreligious.  The very idea that people could not express their religious  beliefs in the public square or in spaces that some label ‘religious free zones’ is ridiculous and would violate our First Amendment rights.

Some interesting facts; the word secular is not used in any of the Founding documents.  The expression, ‘the wall between church and state’ is not found in any of the Founding documents.  It was used one time by Thomas Jefferson when writing to a Baptist Church in Connecticut.  There is nothing in the Constitution that would hinder states from having a State Religion.  The restriction was to only apply specifically to the Federal Government.

The Value Of Religion and the Problem With Atheism

In the following video Carl Young present some material that should make the new atheist type rethink the virtue of their constant attacks on religion as though their attacks are in somehow virtuous. Young’s points out that a loss of faith and religion is the reason why so many people today are despond. Young also shows that a loss of faith tends to move a culture towards  State-ism and the development and growth  of a will for power in the human spirit which results in metal disorders and the totalitarian state.

In  a past  article I pointed out  that atheism is a phenomenal which seems to take place at the end of a civilization and is one of the marks of a decaying culture. It is hard to tell whether atheism  is causal or  the fruit of atheism. However,  either way it is not a positive force in the human community.

Carl Jung Thoughts on Atheism

 

In following video, Carl Jung presents some material that should make the new atheist type rethink the virtue of their constant attacks on religion as though virtuous.  Jung points out that a loss of faith and religion is the reason why so many people today are despondent.  Young also shows that a loss of faith tends to move a culture towards State-ism along with the development and growth of a will for power in the human spirit, which results in mental disorders and the totalitarian state.

In a past article I pointed out that atheism is a phenomenon which seems to take place at the end of a civilization and is one of the marks of a decaying culture.  It is hard to tell whether atheism is the cause, or the fruit, of a culture in declension.  However, either way it is not a positive force in the human community.

An honest unbeliever, Dr. E. Wengraf does not seem to share the enthusiasm of the new atheist in debunking people’s faith,  “Every piece of anti-religious propaganda seems to me a crime.  I surely do not wish it to be prosecuted as a crime, but I consider it immoral and loathsome.  This not because of zeal for my convictions, but because of the simple knowledge,  acquired through long experience, that, given the same circumstances, a religious man is happier than the irreligious.  In my indifference and skeptical attitude toward all positive faith, I have often envied other men to whom deep religiosity has given a strong support in all the storms of life.  To uproot the souls of such men is an abject deed.  I abhor any proselytizing.  But still, I can understand why one who believes firmly in a saving faith tries to convert others.  But I cannot understand a propaganda of unbelief.  We do not have the right to take away from a person his protecting shelter, be it even a shabby hut, if we are not sure we can offer him a better, more beautiful house.  But to lure men from the inherited home of their souls, to make them err afterward in the wilderness of hypotheses and philosophical question marks, is either criminal fatalism or criminal mindlessness.”

 

The Truth on Religion and Violence

The Truth on Religion and Violence

The following is a reply to a young man on social media who was commenting on a post having to do with faith in God.  In the comments, there were a number of posts written by the new atheist type criticizing religion for the violence throughout the world.  Some went so far as to say that religion is the cause of most wars and most of the violence around the world.  Before beginning let me share with the reader that I don’t make any apologies for religion.  When religion does something wrong, it deserves the same criticism as the non-religious.

Let me begin by throwing some mud of my own; have not the ideologies of atheistic communism and liberalism been responsible for killing over two hundred million people since the French revolution?  That is more than all the other wars recorded in history.  If you take out the wars caused by economics and power-hungry kings, how much is left to blame on religion?  The belief that religion is the biggest source of war and violence is an atheist myth and propaganda disseminated by them to prejudice people against religion.

The idea of killing people for abstract ideas and ideology are a modern phenomenon with Muslims being the first to practice it on a large-scale in a religious sense.  Even here there are many scholars who point out that the Muslim faith more like resembles a fascist political system rather than a religion.  However, even if you count it as a religion it is the only major religion which has violence as a part of its core beliefs.  By this, I mean it is the only one whose Scriptures (Koran) preach violence.  The Jewish faith and its scripture in the Old Testament have stories of violence in them, but the violence was directed toward a certain ancient nation that no longer exists.  There is nothing in the Old Testament scripture that would justify Israel today committing violence against another nation or religion  except in self-defense.  The other major religions teach love and peace.

You asked me why God has made it so hard to find him.  I personally don’t think God has made it hard to find him.  I think it is Western culture that has made it tough for people to find him.  For example, a materialistic mindset has hardened the hearts of people in the west making it hard for them to see God.  To experience God it takes time and effort which men in Western culture are no longer willing to do.  They expect to find God the way a person would add up two plus two and get four.  Unfortunately, experiencing God is more different than that.  Finding God comes by way of subtraction, and not addition.

Our spiritual neglect has reached the point that our so-called Christian civilization is no longer Christian.  This hasn’t happened through progress in our education or by growth in our spirituality; it’s happened as a result of total neglect of the spiritual.  We have simply ignored God.  It was not long ago that anyone who was considered an informed person would have a working knowledge about their religion.  Today in general, the educated class is totally ignorant of their culture’s religions.  Two years ago, I was sitting at a table with four or five people with PhD’s.  To my amazement, I found that I could not carry on an intelligent conversation with any of them about religion, philosophy or science.  They were specialists who were only well-versed in their particular field.  When it came to religion, they were as ignorant as children.  Over the years they’re getting to be quite many; I have given numerous books to intellectuals to read on Christianity and to my best recollection not one of them has read the books.  It is people like this that criticize religion on Facebook and other social media.  They are as ignorant as rocks when it comes to religion and yet they parade themselves as knowledgeable.

You see, the rejection of religion is not a problem of the intellect.  It is a problem of the will or appetite.  All this intellectual crap that they parade before the world is just a smokescreen to cover up their indifference and bias towards religion.  It is all done to save the appearance that they are honest and sincere.  They fail to accept that the basic condition of mankind is one of ignorance, sinfulness and hypocrisy.  Their arrogance blinds them to God and it justifies God for turning them over to themselves.  They have forgotten God and God has turned them over to be the play thing of their own disgusting selves.

Secular people have even rewritten history exaggerating the depravity of the Greeks and Romans only to justify themselves.  We are in many ways the most depraved generation of humanity that has ever lived.  As the Scriptures say, “there is no one righteous, no not one; there is no one who seeks God.”  As a result the end of western civilization is near. Metaphorically, we are living out the story of Lot in Sodom.

Let me recommend a couple of authors; Joseph Peterson is excellent and can be watched on YouTube.  C.S. Lewis is still relative and is a good place to start for someone who is seeking God.  Start with his book ‘Mere Christianity’.  He is English and I find it easier to listen to him on tape or an audio book, than by reading him.  You can get his book and more on YouTube.

 

From Jesus to Religion Conclusion

Conclusion

“They stayed at a distance and said to Moses, ‘Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die’” (Ex 20:18-19).
In our study, we have seen how the symbols of mediation have separated and distanced people from God. There is nothing new in this book; it all has been said before in various ways and at different times in the history of the Christian movement. I have simply tried to put it in a fresh way that might help some to understand the extent of our finite and fallen state and how much we depend on the grace of God for our salvation.

I am sure some would like to know what we could do in regard to the forms of mediation. Of course, we can be vigilant in our lives and in our ministries to minimize the effects of these mediators. John Philpot Curran’s said, “The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt.” We do need to be constantly aware that our struggle is not with flesh and blood, but with powers that are spiritual and often unseen. These powers can only be discerned by the spiritually matured and those who are willing to recognize the terrifying and helpless state that we live in. To know reality is to know terror. If it were not for the mediation of our Lord, we would all be consumed by the very image of the reality. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Heb 10:31).

In the present mediated state, the majority have been deluded into believing that they are reality’s master, which demonstrates the degree of their blindness and hubris. All this simply means is the first thing that we need to do is to see, and I hope the material in this book has helped you to do that. The Lord said a man had to be born again to see the kingdom of God, and we might add, a man must be born again to see the kingdom of darkness. Pointing out the forms of mediation is, I hope, a way that will help people to be able to see.

Due to the very nature of the powers that are arrayed against us, few will see the forms of mediation that distort their vision. The reason for this blindness is they cannot live with the tension of being in an unmediated state. Most will continue living under and from the forms of mediation found in religion and their culture. As the Scripture says, “They have eyes but do not see.” They will continue to live from the doctrines and commandments of men, which will justify themselves in their own eyes and the eye’s of others.

We can see in the early Christian movement the difficulty of trying to live in an unmediated state. The first Christians were called atheists because they questioned and refused to accept the religious and cultural forms of mediation. We saw after the death of the apostles, the Light seemed to be dimmed and the church returning to the old forms of mediation that were found in Judaism and paganism. To this day, the church is still fighting over many of these forms of mediation, even though they were never a part of the revelation of God in Christ. The Lord has said, “You cannot put new wine into old wine skins.” Therefore, any large-scale movement to remove the forms of mediation will surely fail.

In fact, mass movements are one of the problems. In order to win the masses, one would have to reintroduce forms of mediation that would take the tension out of the true faith. When you do it, you no longer have the faith, but rather a feel-good religion filled with forms of mediation, or even worse, a legalistic oppressive religion like Calvinism or the Muslim religion.

It would seem the best we can do until the coming of the Christ is to try our personal best to live emancipated from all forms of mediators except Christ and attempt to raise up small groups of people who can live free of the forms of mediation by focusing on the true mediator, Jesus Christ. We should not have any lofty expectation that large groups or the masses will embrace living in an unmediated state, or that the groups we create will continue for long. Remember, Jesus said only a few will be saved (Matt 7:13-4). According to God’s design, all living things are born, mature, and then die. They seem to have a very short life expectancy. If they do remain, they do not continue as living organisms but rather lifeless monuments or fossils (institutions). We can only hope those organisms that do survive will give life to the men and woman who will be faithful to the message and pass it on to others so the truth will not be lost or hidden in a forest of mediators and idols.
“Dear children, keep yourselves from idols” (I John 5:21).

To live in an unmediated state, you must be lifted up to a new state of being.
The laymen must become a priest. The worker must become the owner. The student must become the teacher. The disciple must become the master. The one under authority must become the authority. The student must become the seer. The child must become an adult.

‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty (Zech 4:6).

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